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General Category => Thien Cyclone Separator Lid Discussion => Topic started by: ElRay on July 18, 2011, 03:51:43 PM

Title: Questions before starting: Thin or Beveled Baffle/Side vs. Top inlet?
Post by: ElRay on July 18, 2011, 03:51:43 PM
I'm planning-out a Thein Separator/Cartridge upgrade to my HC 2HP DC and I've got three big questions:

Ray
Title: Re: Questions before starting: Thin or Beveled Baffle/Side vs. Top inlet?
Post by: phil (admin) on July 19, 2011, 05:54:42 AM
(1) If you chamfer the edge, then a thicker baffle is fine.  The thinner the edge, the better that stringy chips will be passed.

(2) Not sure what you mean on this one, can you elaborate?

(3) No, nothing else scales except for the height, and diameter.  The 120/240-degrees, and the 1-1/8" drop slot, stay the same.
Title: Re: Questions before starting: Thin or Beveled Baffle/Side vs. Top inlet?
Post by: ElRay on July 19, 2011, 06:16:51 AM
Quote from: phil (admin) on July 19, 2011, 05:54:42 AM
(2) Not sure what you mean on this one, can you elaborate?
Sure.  Looking through the site, I see the original "top input" design (e.g. http://www.jpthien.com/jpthien/cy.htm ), where the connection from the tool enters the separator from the top, slightly inside of the edge, and goes through a 45 or 90 degree elbow, and "side input" designs (e.g. http://www.jpthien.com/smf/index.php?topic=503.0 ) that look like the top part of a traditional cyclone.  Normally I wouldn't worry too much, but I've seen instances of "well though-out" improvements that actually reduce effectiveness and builds where a side-input would have been better, but the original design was still used.  So, that makes me wonder if separation is better with the original design, or if it really doesn't matter.

Ray
Title: Re: Questions before starting: Thin or Beveled Baffle/Side vs. Top inlet?
Post by: phil (admin) on July 19, 2011, 08:34:38 AM
Side inlets are great.  A little tougher to implement, but they will improve separation and CFM.