J. Phil Thien's Projects

General Category => Thien Cyclone Separator Lid Discussion => Topic started by: paredown on February 24, 2022, 01:22:16 PM

Title: Thien Baffle inside Delta 50-850 DC
Post by: paredown on February 24, 2022, 01:22:16 PM
First post--been reading like crazy. First project is to improve my old Delta that I inherited.

So far:


I have a Donaldson P182038 on order for the top (this is the heavy duty version of the 181038) and the next step is to make a mounting collar for the top of the unit. (I'm annoyed with the folks I ordered from--day three and not shipped despite the claim that it was "in stock".)

So my question--does it make sense to continue the same 8" pipe directly into the bottom of the canister filter?

Since the OD of the filter (17.58") is smaller than the ID of the top of the separator (~19.5"), it will be inset from the top. Some people have done a base ring, and then a second narrow outside ring to constrain the canister. (or blocks to do the same).

What I imagined would be efficient would be to make the 8" hole in that top mounting ring, and then add an 8" HVAC take off ring (flange towards the filter, attached male connector extending down into the 8" pipe sticking up from the new collar. So the center pipe would be continuous 8" to the bottom of the filer (filter has 11" ID).

Filter would seal against the top ring, and the dust would move directly from the top of the Thien baffle to the filter, and bypass the angle pan part of the separator.

Or does magic happen in the separator to catch more of the dust and I should leave the pipe open ended at the top (1" below--3/4" ply donut, so about 1 1/4" sticking up), and cut my mounting ring with the OD to fit the top of the separator, and the ID to match the inside of the filter?
Title: Re: Thien Baffle inside Delta 50-850 DC
Post by: paredown on February 26, 2022, 05:10:36 AM
I put the machine back together yesterday, after re-cutting the baffle. The canister filter is delayed so I wanted to test it.

Compared to it with just the constrictor removed, it is quieter, and from a 'hand over the opening' test, it has more suction. I need to do some other work, so by the time the canister arrives, and I pull the top, I will have a good test on the separation and whether there is a build up on top of the baffle